Keith McIntosh is the founder and CEO of PLATO Testing, an Indigenous-led and staffed software testing firm based in Fredericton. Imelda Perley is a Wolastoqey elder from Tobique First Nation and Elder-In-Residence at UNB. Together they lead a Gathering Circle of Indigenous leaders and business people like Marcel LeBrun, David Alston and Andrea Feunekes. They have specific goals, like advocating for an inquiry into system racism in the province. But they tell host Mark Leger that they are mainly interested in bringing people together to talk, foster understanding and trust, and amplify the voices of the Indigenous people.